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	<title>Comments on: Big Brother</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.chezpete.com/blog/2005/10/18/big-brother/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is this &quot;Bob&quot; and what does he have against us?!  Aaaaaaaaaah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this &#8220;Bob&#8221; and what does he have against us?!  Aaaaaaaaaah!</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.chezpete.com/blog/2005/10/18/big-brother/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re talking about is a little different - that&#039;s why I was asking what kind of information is contained.  I assume you&#039;re trying to prove that Bob made the bomb threat.  If the test printout is stuff like date and time, and passes evidentiary requirements regarding relevancy and prejudice, then it&#039;s admissible.

But if it goes to prove the truth of what it&#039;s asserting then that might be hearsay and inadmissible unless it falls under an exception that lets it in.  For instance, if a witness testified that Ned told him that Bob was going to bomb the building, that&#039;s probably not admissible since what you&#039;re trying to prove is that Bob did it.  I can&#039;t think of a good example that fits here - maybe if the printout was a copy of the threat and said &quot;Bombs away!  Signed, Bob.&quot;  But again, there are lots of exceptions that could let something like that in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re talking about is a little different &#8211; that&#8217;s why I was asking what kind of information is contained.  I assume you&#8217;re trying to prove that Bob made the bomb threat.  If the test printout is stuff like date and time, and passes evidentiary requirements regarding relevancy and prejudice, then it&#8217;s admissible.</p>
<p>But if it goes to prove the truth of what it&#8217;s asserting then that might be hearsay and inadmissible unless it falls under an exception that lets it in.  For instance, if a witness testified that Ned told him that Bob was going to bomb the building, that&#8217;s probably not admissible since what you&#8217;re trying to prove is that Bob did it.  I can&#8217;t think of a good example that fits here &#8211; maybe if the printout was a copy of the threat and said &#8220;Bombs away!  Signed, Bob.&#8221;  But again, there are lots of exceptions that could let something like that in.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.chezpete.com/blog/2005/10/18/big-brother/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely think it would be admissible. I imagine this scenario: someone types up a bomb threat of some sort (maybe a ransom note). Somehow the criminal is found out. The cops bust in, confiscate everything including computer and printer and the evidence is immediately taken into police custody. Before it is unplugged, a computer crime expert prints a test printout and this is taken as evidence.

The test printout is then examined to see if the time, date and serial are in accordance with the evidence from the bomb threat note received. If they are then there is a clear evidence that the person arrested is the supposed bomber.

Any evidence can be tampered with, it&#039;s the degree with which it may not be credible that matters. If standard procedures are taken, why would it be less admissible than any other piece of evidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely think it would be admissible. I imagine this scenario: someone types up a bomb threat of some sort (maybe a ransom note). Somehow the criminal is found out. The cops bust in, confiscate everything including computer and printer and the evidence is immediately taken into police custody. Before it is unplugged, a computer crime expert prints a test printout and this is taken as evidence.</p>
<p>The test printout is then examined to see if the time, date and serial are in accordance with the evidence from the bomb threat note received. If they are then there is a clear evidence that the person arrested is the supposed bomber.</p>
<p>Any evidence can be tampered with, it&#8217;s the degree with which it may not be credible that matters. If standard procedures are taken, why would it be less admissible than any other piece of evidence?</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.chezpete.com/blog/2005/10/18/big-brother/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what kind of information does it hold?  Sounds like hearsay (since it&#039;s an out-of-court statement) to me, but it might fall under an exception - maybe as a business record?  Of course, as Bryan said, if it can be fiddled with, then it&#039;s not reliable, and if it&#039;s not reliable, it wouldn&#039;t be admissible since there&#039;s no opportunity for cross examination to determine its authenticity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what kind of information does it hold?  Sounds like hearsay (since it&#8217;s an out-of-court statement) to me, but it might fall under an exception &#8211; maybe as a business record?  Of course, as Bryan said, if it can be fiddled with, then it&#8217;s not reliable, and if it&#8217;s not reliable, it wouldn&#8217;t be admissible since there&#8217;s no opportunity for cross examination to determine its authenticity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.chezpete.com/blog/2005/10/18/big-brother/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if anything like this would be admissible in court?  I would think you could change the clock/time on one of these printers to give a fraudulent date and therefore false information.  I see some loopholes, but this is very interesting.  I&#039;m going to read more about this and see if I have any way of seeing this on the printers that we deliver to our customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anything like this would be admissible in court?  I would think you could change the clock/time on one of these printers to give a fraudulent date and therefore false information.  I see some loopholes, but this is very interesting.  I&#8217;m going to read more about this and see if I have any way of seeing this on the printers that we deliver to our customers.</p>
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